Pennsylvania Lutheran Pastor Says Easter Sermon Comments About ‘Violent Muslim Purge’ Was Misunderstood

Flames and smoke rise from Notre Dame Cathedral as it burns in Paris on April 15, 2019. (AP Photo/Thibault Camus)

On Easter Sunday, Rev. Carl Johnson told his Lutheran congregation that he wanted to confess his sins.

In particular: his wish that Muslims — who he fears will take over France — would be expelled from France in the wake of the Notre Dame fire.

Johnson’s comments put him and the church in the spotlight after his comments came to the attention of the news media.

Now he says the congregation misunderstood what he wanted to say.

“I’m really sad about that. Obviously, that wasn’t my intention in any way, shape or form,” said Johnson.

Johnson, pastor of St. John’s Lutheran Church in Kittanning, a small town in northwest Pennsylvania, told his congregation that when he heard the news about the Cathedral burning, he immediately thought of the terrorists who had plotted to blow it up in 2016.

“It is the symbol of Christian unity in France,” he said.

The fire at the French Cathedral is believed to have been started by accident. Johnson admitted that in his comments on Easter. But he said that initially he was disappointed by the news.

“I was hoping it was Muslim terrorism so that, hopefully, there would be a violent purge of Muslims from France. I wanted that because France is lost,” said Johnson.

Rev. Carl Johnson. Courtesy photo

After some comments on the difference between the general French birth rate and that of Muslims, Johnson told his congregation that he believed Islam would soon be the majority religion in France.

“It’s going to take a generation, maybe two, before France is Muslim, and there’s no stopping it,” he said.

Approximately 9 percent of the French population in 2017 was Muslim, according to the Pew Research Center, though that percentage is expected to grow.

He told the congregation he hoped a violent response by France to a terrorist act would stop that trend. But he admitted that hope could lead to disaster.

“I thought this could be it, we will fight evil with evil, we will fight fire with fire. There’s a problem with that, is that evil can only beget evil,” he told his congregation.

Since his hopes about the fire were dashed, Johnson said he took comfort in his faith on Christianity’s holiest of days.

“So it is that I need Jesus. I need to hear ‘Alleluia, Christ is risen. He is risen indeed. Alleluia,’” to an answering chorus from the congregation.

In a phone call to Johnson seeking explanation, he said he believes that French Muslims want to turn their country into a Muslim nation.

“I assume that Muslims in France want France to be a Muslim country. I assume that Christians in France want France to be a Christian country. Obviously, those who are secular want all of France to be secular. I’ve never met an atheist who didn’t want everyone to be an atheist.”

Johnson said his comments on Muslims had been completely misinterpreted.

“I was trying to compare and contrast the way of the world with the way of Jesus. The world teaches violence against our enemies. Christ teaches love, forgiveness and mercy.”

Sadly, he added, confessing what he termed a “horrible thought” has been wrongly construed as a statement of his own belief.

“Words have been put in my mouth that are diametrically opposed to what I intended,” he said.

He said he wished that attendees who were offended by his remarks had approached him in person.

Flames and smoke rise from the blaze at Notre Dame Cathedral in central Paris on April 15, 2019. (AP Photo/Thierry Mallet)

Johnson’s words shocked some listeners.

Visitor Sarah Assali said she walked out during the sermon. Then she went back and listened to the sermon several times on YouTube before it was taken down.

“I remember sitting there with my mouth gaping looking around at others (sic) reactions and saying, ‘is this serious?’ I was very offended,” said Assali, a general surgery resident at Allegheny General Hospital, in an email to RNS. “I thought at first that maybe it would lead in a direction where he apologized for having those thoughts about an entire ethnic population, that anti-Islam or racist thoughts are wrong and that these are people too, that we should all love one another. I thought he’d find a way to make it a talk about forgiveness, love and peace. But he did not.”

Assali said that St. John’s was her boyfriend’s family’s church. She intends never to return and says she has no plans to contact Johnson.

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Source: Religion News Service