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Mega-Church Pastors Zachery and Riva Tims' Divorce is Finalized after Zachery Admits to a Year-Long Adulterous Affair with a Stripper

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A husband and wife pastoral team is getting divorced after the husband admitted a year long adulterous affair with a stripper. Zachery and Riva Tims ended their 15-year-marriage in late July, two years after Zachery admitted the affair.

 

The couple started New Destiny Christian Center (NDCC) in a hotel ballroom in 1996 and grew the Orlando-area church to more than 7,500 members. But in October 2007, Zachery Tims admitted "an indiscretion" before the congregation and then stepped down from his position to seek counselling. He returned to the pulpit three months later, after being counselled by a group of ministers

In a written statement to Charisma, Tims, 40, said he has been involved in counselling since the affair became public.

"I submitted myself to an ecumenical counsel of clergy that came into my ministry and ran the spiritual operations while I submitted myself to a counselling and ministry facility for several months out of state," he stated, adding that he is "still involved with monthly counsel."

Many members left the independent church after Judy Nguyen posted details of her affair with the pastor on the Internet. In an e-mail interview with Charisma, Nguyen said she met Tims when he visited the men's club in Paris where she worked. She said the long-distance affair lasted from August 2006 to October 2007.

Riva Tims, 38, also left the church and filed for divorce in 2008. The couple share joint custody of their four children.

Riva Tims would not comment on the circumstances surrounding the divorce, founded Majestic Life Institute and on July 12 opened Majestic Life Ministries church in Orlando.

Much like NDCC, the church emphasizes outreach, with programs planned for children with special needs and youth gang prevention, as well as a job placement ministry for former inmates, drug addicts and alcoholics.

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This is an interesting story......
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At times of hardship and dispair, it is our duty as Christian brothers and sisters to not take sides and pray for both individuals involved. To Pastor Zach...............I love you and you are still a man of God that has to find your way back in the place where God can get the Glory out of your life. To Pastor Riva..........I love you and trials sometimes come to make us strong. Stay strong and God will give you the desires of your heart.

Younger minister's need to yeild themselves to older men and women of God who have avoided these scandals and learn what they have done to stay pure in God and man's sight. Just a "nugget" from someone in ministry who listen to the wisdom of our elders who preach what they have practiced for years. Example: Fred Price, Dr. Hagin and Kenneth Copeland. Thank You.

Fred Price, Dr. Hagin and Kenneth Copeland preach prosperity. Not a good example for our youth, who are already materially inclinded. The gospel of Jesus Christ needs to be preached above and beyond all.

I was very shocked and saddened to hear this news. In a time where marriage is seemingly mocked in these last days, it just seems as though we have to be even more cautious about our choices and how they affect others. Now another marriage is scandalized and another home is broken. I cannot imagine how Riva must have felt in finding this out about her husband, esp. the time, years, hard work, and dedication that has been put into the minstry and most importantly to God's people. We cannot be so selfish about our needs that we forget about others. We just really need God's mercy in our lives like never before and not think that we are above anything. All I can just think of asking is was it worth losing everything for a moment of pleasure because that is how long it lasts for just a season. Help us Lord!

Dr Fred Price not only teaches prosperity him and his wife have been married over 50 years and they teach about family with you need to get to know them before passing judgment on something you don't know about.

Dr. Fred and Betty Price has been married over 50 years they are good people to get counsel from, because the fruit says so.

Dr Price have been married over 50 years so he is a great person to get counsel from and they don't only teach about prosperity but the family as well.

we can continue to go on and on and on, but one thing for sure that we forgot who is in charge, we forgot that we are serving a holy god, and that it he we need to go to, this is not the will of god people are playing church, becaus when we yield our will to his than we can't stumble, not at all, because he has already made a way of escape. we really need to repent for real and seek the lord not us, we need to die, when we keep going through the same mess, we have not die to our flesh.

Oh, how sad another mega pastor and his wife in the divorce court. I don't blame the wife for moving on because he was messing around with a prositiute in this day and time with AIDS on the rampant! God help us. I pray that God bless pastor Riva and her new ministry Majestic life ministries church in Oralando. Keep the faith.

It is sad that the focus in many churches is all external: money, looks, etc. Many pastors, young and old, do not believe in humility; therefore, they do not yield to God or His servants. One Ultimate church here in Orlando used the members as their personal servants and used the funds and assets of the church for their gain. They cared nothing about the welfare of the people; it was all an act. They played with souls; causing many to stumble. It is all very sad. I pray that we will listen to God about what is eternal and lasting, and do His works.

I am in prayer for both. The sting of divorce devastates children. I took my family through such an ordeal because of my unhealthy mind when I married. The fact is we must pray for a healthy mind, a strong and focused heart. The higher God "allows" his children to climb, the deeper the temptations, and the vulnerability to become high and lifted--which normally means we have taken off the whole armour of God. When we become lax, we are attacked. Our EGO--Edging God Out-- is what keeps us in trouble. I have learned from this horrible event we call divorce, and I am working with my daughters. I pray the two remain friends and please guard the children-don't allow bitterness to destroy the pysche of the children. In due season, I pray the healing of the heart takes place, and perhaps restoration if they are receptive to the WILL OF GOD. Divorce stinks...and it is penetrating the believers because we have become a bit lifted, and lax. I am guilty--so let's not throw rocks, instead lift up prayers. One man's strength is another man's weakness. Judge not-- pray for the Lord to restore his ministry. He fell down, you fell down, I fell down, but the potter will put him back together again, and the madam will be restored. If there is no forgiveness, there can be no peace in the ministry for her. God requires forgiveness.. Pray for the leaders of the faith to remain humble.

Another false prophet exposed.People remember this.The qualifications for an Overseer in the church are outlined in 1st Timothy 1-8.Pastor Tims and all these other fakes will be exposed and should be made to step down.God will find REAL men of God to Sheperd his flock.

I've watch Pastor Zachary Tims so many times where his ministry bought me to a place where I too heard the voice of God concerning areas in my own life. So often as Christians when God has saved and delivered us from things that had strong holds on our lives we'll tend to forget those moments when it was GOD'S man and women of the gospel who counseled, prayed, became listeners, supported us financially, etc, until we eventually received our individual breakthroughs. During moments like these it's important that the body of Christ (from the least one to greatest) come together to uplift our brother before God and keep him there until God restore him and his ministry. If God has blessed and delivered us through Pastor Tim in the past I'm a firm believer that God can, and will restore him (Pastor T.) back to his rightful place in ministry where God has purposed and designed for his life. Not only restore him but also restore Pastor Rita Tim as well where she's been hurt and broken as a result of what the enemy has attempted to steal from her. Understand there are three families that's being effected by this (The Tims, New Destiny Christian Church Family, and the Body of Christ) as a whole. So we're all a part of this attack. So let's defeat the enemy together by praying until our family has been restored. Take care and "be blessed."

Always remember who the enemy is? It is devil and he is targeteing all of us. Not Just the Tims, but the New Destiny Church, and the body of christ. The devil is a trophy hunter as pastor Jentezene Franklin puts it. He hunts and when he find one really being used in the lives of people, he has made it, he hangs him on hi wall and says "you see they are cheating you". This breakes the hearts of people.

I've moved to New York since all the news broke out about Zackery Tims. I remember living in Orlando needing spiritual guidance. I got it from him. His ministry was such that I dedicated a chapter to him in a book I wrote "Bushwick and Beyond." He did say, I remember, the devil is busy and he is busiest with those who are at the most influential point of convincingly spreading the word of God. Having experienced similar episodes from my husband, I am happy to report that I was not going to fold at the mercy of the Devil. With perhaps, Zackery and Riva's ministry I was able to forgive and allow my children to continue having a family that is intact. I did not buy into raising children alone, I have four also. I Thank God, I won that battle with the devil. As I think Dr. Zackery's and Pastor Riva's situation, the devil out smarted Pastor Riva for she got caught up in the worldly aspect and not the power of the temptation of sin perpetuated by the devil. Let's not forget that Dr. Zackery Tim's is a sinner just like the rest of us. In his case he has to try harder because the Devil is contantly trying to win victory with him. Now if his name was Jesus Christ we would have a different situation. The Tim's family was an ideal family and the devil got busy with Zackery to get to Riva. I guess the Devil won. I would say to Pastor Riva (putting pride aside) If there is a drop of love left for Dr. Zackery find it in your heart to forgive and give your kids the opportunity to have a two original parent household. It will be at that point that you can fullfill the world of God that deals with forgiveness. Janet Calderon

"I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ." Galatians 1:6-10

You have to preach Jesus Christ and him crucified at the cross. The cross is more than just for salvation. It is our source for living a saved life every day. It is the only act that stopped us for going to hell. We are not Gods but we are created in the image of God. He is our father. We need the ressurection power of the cross to live victorious. May preachers are falling from grace because they are preaching false doctrine such as the only thing is to seek God for is money and word of faith doctrine.
What about your soul? Put your faith in Jesus and his works at the cross.

iam very saddened that an annointed man of god
has fallen with a thud from grace. i was listening to his programme on tbn yesterday and i did not for once lose my concentration, but my
spirit was somewhat troubled. i tested the spirit
and this has been revealed. i would like to believe that he has risen again, for the word says a"righteous man shall fall seven times and rise". i believe that for him to have chaired the
programme, he has repented and has been forgiven.
there is no need for bretheren to condem him, but
shouled pray that total restoration takes place. Yes , divorce is painful and i have gone through it. the only difference is my husband is heathen.
the devil is working hard to destabilise marriage
because its gods holy institution and as such,
he knows an unsuccesful marriage reflects on the
type of church in question. Keep praying for pastor tims and defeat the evil one who comes to
kill, steal and destroy. God bless pastor Tims.

It's been 2 years since Pastor Tims first announced that he had his affair so I have to believe that Pastor Riva has sought the Lord about this affair that lasted for well over a year. None of us were in their home and only possibly they and God knows what went on from the time Pastor Zachary came forward until the time they divorced. The bottom line is that she had biblical grounds for divorce. While some decide to stay for various reasons, others have their reasons not to. As women of God we should undergird her and pray for her, her children and Pastor Zachary not second guess her decision and assume that she has no love for him.

When we speak of restoration, and the fact of putting someone back where they belong, doesn't mean that they are to return with the title of Senior Pastor. Restoration back to God first and foremost; and if God chooses to set you over the people again,so be it. But how do you sit down for only 3 months witha slap on the hand and now I'm preaching again with the spirit of perversion. I see selfishness in the matter. I would rather sacrifice my position in order to preserve the people's souls. Getting another ministry is not a problem. Living Holy is.

I applaud Riva for being strong enough to do what she must do. Who knows what else she has already known? Whose to say there werent other affairs that she has already forgiven.

Secondly, I use to watch their ministry on TV in the mornings. I always noted that he used the bible during his sermons, and the sermons always made good practical sense, but i always questioned his sincerity. The Lord gives us the ability to discern spirits. We must be careful, the enemy knows the Word as well, and knows how to use it. So, even if one can preach well, we must be in tuned with the Holy Spirit at ALL times. What looks like the right thing isnt always what it seems.

Remember, there are many false teachers.

REMEMBER GOD IS AN MERCIFUL AND YOU CAN'T QUESTION GODS ANOINTED THAT CALLED BLASPHEMY!!!! I LOVE PASTOR RIVA AND ZACHARY TIMS. I WAS RAISED UP AS A CHILD IN THE CHURCH AND ONE THING GO D HAS TAUGHT ME IS THAT HE GIVE US DISCERNMENT NOT JUDGE BUT TO BETTER OUR SELF AND TO INTERCEDE AND PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER. WE SOMETIMES GO OFF OF OUR OWN UNDERSTAND, GOD HAS THE LAST SAY IN BOTH OF THERE LIFE'S AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT GOD WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE BOTH OF THEM UP AND IN THE END HE WILL RECEIVE ALL OF THE GLORY. WE NEED TO CONSTANTLY REEVALUATE OUR SELF'S BECAUSE THE TONGUE IS POWERFUL AND GOD WILL PUT YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE SAME THINGS TO GIVE YOU A BETTER UNDERSTAND OR JUST BECAUSE YOU THING IT CAN'T NOT HAPPEN TO YOU. SO GOD CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR WAY IN ALL OF OUR LIFES RENEW US RESTORE US!!!!!!!

Its so sad to read about these men of God. How devastating to see how selfishness can destroy what God intended. As a single Christian, it just makes me trust God more in that area. Everyone is not unfaithful in marriage. I don't believe these men started out with the intent to cheat, but there were some open doors somewhere. Sex is a wonderful, exciting experience. Unfortunately, it feels good whether it's with your spouse or with someone else. That's why we have to exercise temperance.

let he who is without sin cast the first stone. pastor zachary tim is very annionted of god and in the word it says dont talk about my annionted. when god calls us in the ministry he dont change his mind about us. we just have to repent and look forward not at the past. We have to get our minds on the cross and what god did for us that is why christ had to die is for all of us he knew we were going to mess things up. Thank god for his grace for us.

I was looking at television a few moments ago and saw Zach and wondered where was the ring.. WOW this one hurt.. alot.. Praying for you Riva!

Prosperity isn't a bad thing my friend. In fact,the Bible talks God wanting to see us prosper just as our soul prospers. God says that I wish above all things that you prosper and be in good health. Even Solomon said that "Money answers all things." Lastly the Bible says that "The love of money is the root of all evil." The Bible clearly states here that there's nothing wrong with having things and being prosperous, as long as, those things don't have you.
My prayer is that this enlightens your view. God Bless!!

AMEN Cora!!!

That's the Love of God shown forth through His people...to love and not condemn.

God bless sister!!! We need more of God Love in the church.

Amen! i do agree. A lot of time man does not count up the cost..........

This has broken my heart deeply because I love when married people are happy and in love. I hope that Mr. Zackery Tims know that he can never get married to another women according the bible on divorce and remarriage, but he can be reconcilled bacj to his wife if she would have him......
Divorce And Remarriage:
What Does the Bible Teach about Who May Divorce and Remarry?

Divorce and remarriage have become common as civil law allows no-fault divorce. A husband or wife may dissolve a marriage for almost any grounds and remarry, regardless of the will of their spouse. The result is that many people marry without considering the teaching of the Bible. Is fornication (or adultery) the only Scriptural grounds for divorce, or does the gospel allow marriage to be dissolved for other grounds? Please consider this careful study of the Biblical teaching.
Introduction:

Many forces in society defend the practice of easy divorce.
Divorce laws in America are so lax that almost anyone can dissolve a marriage and remarry at any time for any reason. With “no-fault” divorce, a husband or wife can claim “incompatibility” or “irreconcilable differences” and get a divorce no matter how much their spouse objects.

What is right or wrong is determined by the Creator of the Universe.
Men will be judged according to whether or not we have conformed our lives to His will (John 12:48). Man’s will often differs from God’s (Prov. 14:12; Isa. 55:8,9; 2 Cor. 10:12,18; Lk. 16:15,18). Since the Bible reveals God’s will, we must learn what it says about divorce and remarriage (2 Tim. 3:16,17; 1 Cor. 14:37; Eph. 3:3-5; 2 Pet. 1:21).

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Part I: Does the Bible Say Divorce and Remarriage Is Moral or Immoral?

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A. The General Teaching of the New Testament Is that Divorce is Contrary to God’s Will, and that Remarriage Following Divorce Constitutes Adultery.
Note that there is one exception to this general rule, which we will discuss later. At this point we are discussing the general rule. The following passages present this teaching:

Matthew 19:3-9 (cf. Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18)
Jesus was asked whether divorce can properly be obtained for just any reason a person might have. He answered by appealing to the original marriage law.

Jesus taught that divorce itself, in general, is contrary to God’s will. God made one man for one woman, indicating He did not intend for either to marry anyone else. He said they should cleave to one another and the two become one – there is no room in God’s plan for a third party. God joins the man and woman, no human has the right to break that bond.

Further, whoever divorces his wife and marries again commits adultery (unless he does it because she has been guilty of fornication), and whoever marries her who has been divorced also commits adultery. (Mk. 10 adds that this rule also applies to the woman if she divorces her husband.)

To help understand the passage, read it with your name and your spouse’s name, instead of “whosoever,” etc.

Matthew 19:9 – If ____________ (you) divorces __________ (his wife), except for fornication, and marries another, _________________ (you) commits adultery; and whoever marries ___________ (her who is divorced) commits adultery.”

Matthew 5:31,32
One who puts away his wife (for some cause other than fornication) causes her to commit adultery. This assumes that she remarries as described in the last part of the verse and as implied in the previous verse (the purpose of the “bill of divorcement” according to the law was so she could become another man’s wife – Deut. 24:1ff).

By divorcing his wife, the husband puts her in the position where she is strongly tempted to remarry and if she does remarry, Jesus says she is guilty of adultery and so is the man she marries (in contrast to the Mosaic Law which tolerated the remarriage). Hence, the divorce itself is wrong and should be avoided. [Cf. Matt. 18:6,7]

Romans 7:2,3
A married woman is bound by law to her husband as long as he lives. This means that if she is married to another man while her first husband is alive, she is guilty of adultery. She is free to remarry without guilt only if her husband is dead.

(Some ask what “law” is this that joins the man and woman – God’s law or man’s law? It is the law which, when violated, makes the woman an adulteress. Clearly this must be God’s law, and this conforms to what is taught elsewhere.)

1 Corinthians 7:10,11
A married woman should not depart from her husband nor he from her. Again, divorce itself is not the will of God.

But if she departs (if divorce has occurred), she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. Clearly remarriage is not a scriptural alternative.

(Note: “depart” here is the same word elsewhere translated “put asunder” – Matt. 19:6; Mk. 10:9: The result of the action is that the woman is “unmarried.”)

The teaching of the gospel on this point is unpopular with most people. Many people don’t want to hear it preached. Jesus’ own disciples considered it very strict (Matt. 19:10-12), still Jesus did not compromise it or apologize for it. He continued to teach and defend it and so must we.

B. To Apply These Passages Properly, We Must Understand Why the Second Marriage Is Forbidden and Why It Is Called “Adultery.”
God clearly has the right to forbid any act if He so chooses, but it helps us apply the teaching when we understand His reasons for forbidding an act. What reason does God give for declaring the second marriage sinful, and why does He call it “adultery”?

Malachi 2:14-16
God hates putting away (v16). Again, divorce is contrary to God’s will. Why? Because marriage is a covenant between a man and his wife (v14). God is a witness to that covenant, and He holds men to it (v14). If a man violates the covenant, he is dealing treacherously with his wife and God will hold him accountable. [Prov. 2:17; Ezek. 16:8]

Though this is an Old Testament passage, it helps us learn the definition of marriage, which has not changed. Marriage is, by God’s definition, a solemn mutual agreement between a man and woman to live together as husband and wife. God holds them to that covenant bond and will not free them from it, even if people declare them to be free.

Remember this! The whole foundation of New Testament teaching regarding divorce rests on God’s attitude toward marriage. When people weaken the barriers against divorce, they are weakening respect for marriage. Divorce matters because it destroys a marriage, and marriage is very important to God. Any view of divorce, which fails to respect marriage as God respects it, must be an unscriptural view.

This is why Jesus, in answering a question about divorce and remarriage, appealed to God’s original intent regarding marriage (Matt. 19:3-9). God will respect and enforce His law regarding it, even when men disregard it!

Hebrews 13:4
The marriage covenant includes the right and obligation to have the sexual union only with the companion with whom we have a Scriptural marriage covenant. To have relations with anyone else is “fornication” or “adultery.”

This too is part of the marriage covenant as God defines it. Marriage gives a man and his wife the right to the sexual union, but only with their lawful spouse.

[Ezek. 23; Jer. 3; Prov. 5:15-20; 6:29,32; 7:18-20; Ezek. 16:32; 1 Cor. 7:1-9].

Romans 7:2,3
In this marriage covenant, the woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives (cf. 1 Cor. 7:39). The marriage “bond” is a lifetime covenant commitment, and God holds people to the commitment they made, even if later they try to break it.

Note that the passage says a woman may be “bound” to one man, but “married” to another man! The “bond” refers to the marriage covenant that God holds you to. “Marriage” refers to the relationship you are living in as recognized by civil law and society. The two may be the same, but not necessarily. In this case, the woman was “bound” to one man but “married” to a completely different man!

That is why a woman is guilty of adultery if she is married to another man. Adultery, by definition, refers to sexual intercourse between two people, one of whom is bound by a marriage covenant to somebody else [see definitions in notes on Matt. 19:9].

This woman is an “adulteress” because she has been joined in a marriage covenant with one man, and God holds her to that covenant for life. But she is having sexual relations with another man, and that, by definition, is adultery. This passage defines adultery for us!

Note that anytime she has sexual relations with a man other than her scriptural mate it is adultery – as long as her first companion is living, the passage says. Whether she has just a single act of intercourse, or has an “affair” involving a number of adulterous acts over a period of time, or whether it is a second marriage to another man – in any case every time she has sexual union with another man the passage says she is guilty of adultery.

This is “adultery” because the woman is Scripturally committed to have the sexual union only with one man as long as he lives, but instead she is having it with another man. This is why it is proper to refer to the second marriage as “adulterous” or “living in adultery,” just as it would be if she were living with him but not married to him (Col. 3:5-7).

Matthew 19:3-9
What reason is given why remarriage is forbidden and why it is called “adultery”? Because God declared man and woman should cleave to one another. He joins them (by witnessing their marriage covenant and holding them to it). He forbids their changing their mind and says no man can put their marriage asunder.

So, if man puts away his wife and marries another, the second marriage is “adultery” because he is having the sexual union with a second wife while God still holds him obligated to his covenant to have the sexual union only with his first wife.

Note again: the terms “marry” and “divorce” (or “put away,” and also “husband” and “wife”) as used here and elsewhere, refer to the relationship as viewed by society and the law of the land. In a first marriage, both God and society recognize the marriage commitment to exist between the man and woman. They are both “married” in the eyes of society and “joined” (”bound”) in the eyes of God.

Society and civil law may then grant them a “divorce” (not for fornication) and they may “marry” again. Society and civil law then views them as free from their first marriage and entered into a second one, and the Bible calls this “divorced” (”put away”) and “married” again. But though God uses these terms as society does, He does not recognize the divorce as making a valid end to the covenant commitment that He recognized in the first marriage. God still considers them “bound” or “joined” or held accountable for the commitment of the first marriage (v6).

There is a definite distinction between the covenant commitment (bond) which God recognizes and the divorce and marriage which civil law recognizes. (cf. Mk. 6:17,18)

Again, the second marriage is “adultery” because the person is still joined in God’s eyes to his/her first spouse, but they are having a sexual relationship with a second spouse. That is adultery, and it will continue to be adultery every time they have the sexual relationship, because God has still “joined” them to their first spouse and He will not “put asunder” that bond.

1 Corinthians 7:10,11
This explains why, if a woman divorces her husband, she still has no right to remarry. She may get divorced in the eyes of civil law, and God calls it “divorce” and says she is now “unmarried.” But that does not free her from her bond or covenant obligation to her first husband. Since she is still bound to her first marriage covenant, her only choice then is to be reconciled to her husband (the one God recognizes) or else remain unmarried.

Sexual relationship outside of a Scriptural marriage bond constitutes fornication (v2-5). Hence, if the woman divorces and remarries, that second marriage, as long as it lasted and as long as her first husband was still alive, would constitute adultery.

Understanding these principles will be vital to reaching proper applications and answers to other questions we will deal with.

[Note that adultery involves a sexual act - John 8:4; Heb. 13:4; Prov. 6:20-35. It is not just the act of divorcing and remarrying that is adultery.]

C. God Allows an Exception to the General Rule When One’s Spouse Has Been Guilty of Fornication.
This exception is clearly stated in Matthew 19:9 (and 5:32).
“Whosoever shall put away his wife, except for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery” (”saving for the cause of fornication” – Matt. 5:32).

The question originally asked Jesus concerned the grounds or cause for which a man may divorce his wife (v3). In v9 Jesus clearly says there is no acceptable cause except if ones companion has been guilty of fornication.

Unlike the Mosaic Law, which Jesus admits tolerated divorce and remarriage for other causes, Jesus’ teaching allows one and only one cause.

Note that the only one who is granted the right to divorce and remarry without being guilty of sin is the one who has been sinned against by his/her companion who committed fornication.

What is fornication?
Definitions: “illicit sexual intercourse in general” (Thayer); “every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse” (Arndt and Gingrich). Fornication includes any form of sexual intercourse with anyone other than ones scriptural spouse, regardless of whether that person be of the opposite sex or of the same sex. Note passages that explain the meaning:

1 Corinthians 7:2-5 – To avoid fornication, one is to satisfy the sexual desire with and only with “his own wife” or “her own husband.” Our own marriage companion is the only one who has power over our body. If we satisfy this desire with anyone else, the passage says it would be fornication, whether it be with someone we are not married to, someone else’s husband or wife, or someone else of the same sex (i.e., homosexuality). (See also Heb. 13:4).

Jude 7 – Sodom and Gomorrah gave themselves over to fornication. But Gen. 19 shows this refers to homosexuality (men wanted to lie with men, not with women) ["and going after strange flesh" has the significance of even going after...]. Therefore, homosexuality is a form of fornication, and would be scriptural grounds for one’s companion to obtain a divorce and remarry.

Some say fornication would not include adultery (i.e., the case in which one who is married has relations with someone not their spouse). But the following passages use “fornication” to include extra-marital sex: 1 Cor. 5:1; Amos 7:17; Ezek. 16:8,15,26,29; Jer. 3:6,8. Jesus used “fornication” in order to include, not just extra-marital sex, but also premarital sex and homosexuality – any form of illicit sexual intercourse.

When a man and woman marry, they make a covenant to have the sexual relationship only with one another and with no one else (of the same or opposite sex) as long as they both shall live. If one companion violates that covenant by having sexual relations with any person other than their own spouse, he/she has violated the marriage covenant in such a way that God grants their partner the right to divorce them and remarry.

The New Testament teaching regarding divorce and remarriage can be summarized like this: When a man and woman marry, they enter into a lifetime covenant in which God binds or joins them, holding them accountable to keep this covenant. If there is a divorce for some cause other than fornication, God’s will is violated; and if either or both remarry, the second marriage relationship(s) is (are) adultery because God still holds the people bound to the first marriage commitment. If during the first marriage, however, one companion commits fornication, then the other companion may choose to obtain a divorce and remarry without sin.

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Part II: Does the Teaching of Jesus Regarding Divorce and Remarriage Apply to People Outside the Church?

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Some people believe that Jesus’ teaching regarding divorce and remarriage was addressed only to those who are in covenant relationship with Him (disciples, Christians, members of His church). It does not apply to people outside the church since they are not citizens in Christ’s kingdom, not members of the body of which He is the head, etc.

It is argued that people outside Christ are condemned because they have not subjected themselves to Christ or because they have violated God’s universal moral law; but until they become Christians, God does not notice or hold them accountable for violations of specific New Testament teachings such as divorce laws.

So it is concluded that, no matter how many times such people divorce and remarry before they become Christians, when they are baptized they just keep the companion they have then. But consider the following points:

A. Jesus Is Lord over All Men, Not Just Those in the Church.
Jesus is not just Head of the church or King of His kingdom. There are other positions He holds that show that all men are obligated to obey Him. He is:

Jesus is God (Deity)
John 1:1,14; 20:28,29; Phil. 2:6-8; Col. 2:9. If He possesses Deity


The written word is the truth and it is the only truth that we have. In the book of Ephesians 4:31-32 reminds us of God's command in how we should relate to one another and according to Ephesians 5:1-33 this word completes the issues of Marriage and how we must address them as Christians according to the Epistle Paul. I believe in cruxifying the flesh daily and it is only through Christ that anyone can do this. At the same time, we must not cruxify one another for the choices made when the marriage bed has been defiled. I believe that this is a tough decision for any one including pastors. The Bible tells us that the enemy comes to kill, steal, and destroy. He can not destroy Pastor Riva or Pastor Zachery as long as they both continue to exercise their faith serving God through their personal relationships with the Lord in repentence, forgiveness, praise and worship. His Grace is sufficient. I would like to point out that God has the answers to our problems because it is written, that we know in part, but not until Jesus returns will we fully understand. With that being said, "All things work together for the good of them who love the Lord and are called accordig to his purpose." I believe that we must pray for one another to resist the devil and he will flee.

The written word is the truth and it is the only truth that we have. In the book of Ephesians 4:31-32 reminds us of God's command in how we should relate to one another and according to Ephesians 5:1-33 this word completes the issues of Marriage and how we must address them as Christians according to the Epistle Paul. I believe in cruxifying the flesh daily and it is only through Christ that anyone can do this. At the same time, we must not cruxify one another for the choices made when the marriage bed has been defiled. I believe that this is a tough decision for any one including pastors. The Bible tells us that the enemy comes to kill, steal, and destroy. He can not destroy Pastor Riva or Pastor Zachery as long as they both continue to exercise their faith serving God through their personal relationships with the Lord in repentence, forgiveness, praise and worship. His Grace is sufficient. I would like to point out that God has the answers to our problems because it is written, that we know in part, but not until Jesus returns will we fully understand. With that being said, "All things work together for the good of them who love the Lord and are called accordig to his purpose." I believe that we must pray for one another to resist the devil and he will flee.

It is sad that another one of the mega men who say they are of GOD & the divine mission that HE has offered to the leader of the church. Point is that pastor had not truly submitted to the Perfect Will of the Living GOD in Jesus. That is why so many of us don't attend mega churches. I have the consciousness to drive a big Mercedes, live in a 7-bdr house w/ a pool house, mother-in-law quarter, basketball court, etc. Think about it.

There is a Minister on youtube name Pastor Gino Jennings he is teaching on divorce and remarriage and other topics that have been untouched in the Churches for years. He is not sugar coating, covering up anything. He is the most strickest Pastor I ever seen

Go to Youtube and type in just like this:
Pastor Gino Jennings 795 796 797part14 After you finish with part14 then theres part,15,16,17,18,

The Bible clearly states that a man who in not in control of his house hold is not qualified to lead his sheep. His house is a mess. Lets not forget, that he sets the tone for the body. How long before others think it is ok to do the same. It is obvious that 3 months was not enough time to restore himself to God and his wife.

When I learned of this story, I was shocked and a bit grieved, as I know both of these ministers, went to church with them in Baltimore, and saw them rise, watched them blossom, and was there when they left to move and later start their ministry.

Unfortunately, the pastor that we all served under, had the same manner of discretion inside of the ministry, resulting in a member of the leadership getting pregnant. "The spirit of the leader prevails over the people". That was an unfortunate situation to witness and go through, and many left the ministry, the marriage was dissolved, and many lives were negatively impacted by this indiscretion. There is no judgment here... "Preacher are people too", and the only difference between those who are in the pew, and those who are in leadership, is the assignment. God sees us no differently because of the title. Yet, the responsibility of shepherding and these kind of indiscretions, weigh heavier consequentially, whether the indiscretion is with sheep inside of the ministry, or someone outside of the ministry. When indiscretion is exposed, it affects everyone.

With that said, we have to pray for all involved... all! Not one of us is exempt from falling... we are flesh... born and shapen in sin/iniquity, and we can't judge not one soul, regardless of their position.

I pray that the Tims have found a place of peace between themselves, and happy place in order to raise their children in love, and I pray that those who fell away from the ministry, didn't fall away from the Body of Christ, and if perhaps some did, that God would send a restorer, to bring them back in fellowship, and assist in their healing.

Remember, Pastors/Preachers are people, just like the man on the corner... people... our assignments in life are different, but God uses PEOPLE to get the job done.

Christians are losers I have known this since I was a little girl. I have no need for religion I am a very spiritual person and I look for other people who's minds are growing and understanding life on a very profound deep level. Most christains don't even know who Jesus was they say they do, but they don't Jesus was a master of the old religion. The word magi translates to Wizard. Anyways most Christians don't even want to look at who the real Jesus was. They just feel connected to the bible Jesus which was not the real Jesus. As far as Pastor Tim's I knew just by looking at him that he has a freak that no 1 women could ever satisfied. However, it take s a powerful mind to have this kind of understanding of men. Which most women don't have but I knew that he was a freak.

Wisdom,

You said a lot, but you missed something, if the divorce is scriptural then the marriage is dead and neither is bound, offender or offended. In one case a person has been guilty of adultery, in the other example a person becomes an adulterer. Jesus never addressed what happens to the person who marries if they have been put away as the scriptures prescribe.

It is just a couple days before Thanksgiving as I am just commenting on this. I have not watched much of christian TV of late, and have stopped reading charisma, so I am 'out of the loop' sort of speaking. I am saddended, shocked regarding the news of the divorce with Brother and Sister Tims..I will judge neither but will be praying for both.

As for Maria Blanco's comment, I feel sorry for her. Having been a christian for more than 25 years, I have seen the worst behavior in believers, as well as the best, but I determined that no christian leader, or saint, is the center of my faith; only Jesus Christ of Nazareth is. Ms. Blanco, Christianity is not for losers, but throughout it's more than 2000 year existence it has, for all it's mistakes by leadership been at the forefront of everything from education to hospitals, to ophanages to equal rights in the American South. The lives of those who truly come into contact with Christ become dramatically changed and the files of converts show that their lives become blessings to others in service, sacrifice and blessing, much like the great master, Jesus Christ of Nazareth

Ms. Blanco, if Jesus Christ is who he says he is, what will you do with him. If there indeed is a white throne judgment and you are unprepared tomeet God in peace, you, dear lady may end up one of the biggest 'losers'

To: Anonymous

If you can please show me wear in the new testament where is says that one can remarry other than the spouse being dead leave me the scripture.

Jesus Christ and Paul the dicipal never mentioned remarriage accept for only when the husband are wife have deceased.

In the Book of 1 Corinthians chapter 7: Are thou loosed from a wife seek not a wife, here the wife is not dead, but Paul is saying if one has departed from his wife do not look for another wife.

Are thou bound unto a wife seek not to be loosed. Here he is saying if you are married stay with your wife. Don't look for a way out.

Once again remarriage is not mentioned

I am not going to knock what he did because first thing god will say to us is he who without sin cast the first stone. Can anyone of us do that, I use to tune into his preaching all the time, because I liked the way he bought the word. I was very hurt with this, because these are are shepherd that is falling. But the truth to this is that Satan know his time is running out so he is very active, and like the bible says he will get many. of course he will start with the Paster (shepherds) because they the ones leading us straight to gods path. So a word, Pasters you have to stand strong with your hold amour of God in order to win this battle with gods help.

AMEN. I dont know whats going on here in Orlando with our leaders but God is trying to tell us something. The body of Ghrist was never intended to be ran by a pastor and church administator. This is the first problem, No one man can dictate to Gods people his will, God placed in the body a five fold ministry, for the edifying of the body, not a ORGANIZATION that we call a church. When a man or woman sets themselves over Gods people and they themselves are without any fellowship, spiritual nourishment, they are only human and will eventually fall. Already there is another big church in our area are scrambling to cover up a sex scandal and are being blackmailed by another well known pastors sister. People of God LOVE one another, dont let this selfish spirit of greed ruin your love for God. JESUS DIED FOR OUR SIN, NOT MAN.

God wants his servants to be an example, not to live like the heathen. If pastors and other memebers of the clergy can't live holy, then stay out of the pulpit!

I so respect you for this comment. It is so sad to read all these different judgments. I have been studying the word since I was about 17. I am now 31 and just now gaining a true understanding in the word. I was just baptized in September into the body of Christ and man what a difference it made in my life. I've struggled with all types of addictions and other sins of this world and to now be delivered is a great filling. Yes, I am still a sinner and have to repent daily but God is my true Father and He loves me and gives me encouragement every single day. I honestly didn't know that Pastor Tims had this untimely and saddening affair. I still love and respect him for finally coming out. Yes, he was very wrong for what he did and should have stepped down to get himself in check. We as the body aren't supposed to be such haters and look down on one another or judge. We should lift each other up and pray for one another. I pray that they each overcome their adversities and get it together. I pray that one day they could even reconcile their marriage. What all you people fail to realize is that divorce is unacceptable in God's sight and if you do get a divorce you can't get without anyone else or you must return to your spouse. Have you Ever read the story of Hosea? If you haven't you should because his story is an example of unconditional love and how a spouse is to cling to their spouse. God's word says a husband and wife become one flesh and what He puts together let no man tear apart people. Stop trying to pick and chose certain things out of His word to fit how you want it to and keep all His commands. Gossip and judging are just as bad a sin as adultery.

Is there anything to hard for God? God can restore pastor tims marriage if HE chooses too.

Sorry, Kev, I hope you are a believer- if you are then you are one of the many myopic ones who fail to realize that we are human, saved by grace, and not of ourselves....the fact he fell does not mean he's a false prophet! And realise b4 God all sin is sin...do not judge lest you be judged by the same measure; rather if anyone be overtaken in a fault, pray for him and rescue such a one , being careful, lest you fall by the same fault.....if you can , pray for the man , so the devil will be ashamed at his failed attempt to snatch him from the kingdom! Be blessed....

I cannot believe it, are there no young christian 'Celebrity Pastors' (TV Evangelists), who know how to be Faithful to the Lord and their Family.
If you want to be in the public eye should you not be there as an Example?

Some Pastors are really no example in this Generation.
Don't they love God, their wives and families enough not to Hurt, Damage and Devastate them like they are!!!!

Are they such Sex Crazed Fiends that they just can't control themselves.
For Gods sake a Married Pastor and a Prostitute!!

What kind of example, legacy and curses are they leaving for their children and the younger generation.

I recently read about Da truth, Tye Tribbett, his wife, the whole fiasco, and there are so many more Barefaced Sex Obsessed deviants on CHRISTIAN T.V.

And they just Destroy their 'Loved Ones' lives and hop back on to the TV like it's Nothing!!!

I used to watch Pastor Tims and thought wow, he is really annointed, and an inspiration for the younger generation, and now I feel sick.

You wonder why they stereo type brothers, with the stigma that all they think about is SEX.

Maybe you should really practice what you preach.


Proverbs 6:32 (NKJV)

32 Whoever commits adultery with a woman lacks understanding;
He who does so destroys his own soul.

Exodus 18:21 (NKJV)

21 Moreover you shall select from all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; and place such over them to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens.


Christian Leaaders we need you, to be Godly Examples!!!

I believe the scripture tell us that if we find a brother in fault to pray for such a one. And then those of us who are spiritual should restore them. A persons calling doesn't change because of indiscretion. However, we as the body of Christ need to learn how to build people up on their most Holy Faith, stop rebuking and start building.

So many have become so DEEP/HOLY/SAVED and PERFECT so to speak nonetheless we should remember to first check OURSELVES and make sure our own HOUSE is in order before we cast a stone on anyone else.

I am reminded of this passage of scripture:

John 8

1Jesus went unto the Mount of Olives.

2And early in the morning he came again into the temple and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what safest thou?

6This they said, tempting him that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? Hath no man condemned thee?

11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

No one in this world can point the finger at anyone because we all have done wrong, we all have sinned and therefore before anyone is judgmental take a look at your own backyard or the skeletons in your closet and I’m sure many will find that they are not perfect. I’m tired of people counting every mistake one makes as if they don’t make mistakes of their own. I’m tired of people BEING HYPOCRITICAL as if he/she even makes the right choices themselves. I’m tired of the AHA method as if a person has all there T’s crossed and I’s dotted, I mean let’s be real. Just be real to your self. I don’t know who I’m talking to but I know I am talking to somebody. If the shoe fits then wear it…… Live your own life and stop worrying about everyone else’s!!!!!

We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God. Don't talk about people pray for one another. I'm not saying what he did is right but hey let's be real, It takes two to Tango so no one person is alone in the entire matter. The female or females are just as bad off because they allowed it and considering from what I've seen with how women throw themselves at pastors they might've instigated the entire situation. We don't even allow women to sit on the front row of our church because when they did they would sit with their legs open, wearing no panties and trying to seduce our Bishop. I've seem one woman come to church on Valentine's Day cause in her mind she really thought that one day her and the bishop were going to get married. I've seen women try to run on stage just to touch our Bishop and get ran right off by security. Women from all over the world send letters and naked pictures and they really think that their mail gets our the Bishop.

I'm just saying and I'm all the way in California so I've seen some crazy nonsense. I've got a great seat to see it all because I am in the choir and trust me you just never know what you're going to see. I think all pastors, priests, reverends, ministers, bishops, etc go through this but it's when they act upon it that makes a difference but as I said before it take two to tango so pray for one another because really who are we to judge or be judged when we all have sinned.

this is what happen in the body of christ, we are so judgemental that we cant even forgive. look at the treatment pastor tims is facing, how can he confined in anyone when the affair was going on. i believe this is what we should consider first, some ministers are in great pain of trouble and weakness but they cant confined in anyone not even their own associate ministers because they will even kill you the more. i believed riva have to stand by her man, i believe she is hurt but still stand by him. please do remember the good times and what you two used to share together, and i believe you will overcome please riva. i pray the good god will restore you two and the ministry. god bless you all.

1Sa:30:1: And it came to pass, when David and his men were come to Ziklag on the third day, that the Amalekites had invaded the south, and Ziklag, and smitten Ziklag, and burned it with fire;
1Sa:30:2: And had taken the women captives, that were therein: they slew not any, either great or small, but carried them away, and went on their way.
1Sa:30:3: So David and his men came to the city, and, behold, it was burned with fire; and their wives, and their sons, and their daughters, were taken captives.
1Sa:30:4: Then David and the people that were with him lifted up their voice and wept, until they had no more power to weep.
1Sa:30:5: And David's two wives were taken captives, Ahinoam the Jezreelitess, and Abigail the wife of Nabal the Carmelite.
1Sa:30:6: And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David Encouraged himself in the LORD his God. pastor somtimes you hav to be like David and encourage yourself. your own christian brothers and sisters will be the ones to stone you as they wanted to do to David. no one is encouraging immorallity NO, but it has happen let build them up and the good God will restored them back. bless u all

I had to comment after reading this post. I advise anyone to not post or quote something from the bible if they don't understand or know what the word of God says. First of all, the word of God clearly states in Ephesians 6:18(NCV)-Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his great power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can fight against the devils evil tricks. Our fight is not against people on earth but against the rulers and authorities and the powers of this world's darkness, against the spiritual powers of evil in the heavenly world. That is why you need to put on God's full armor. Then on the day of evil you will be able to stand strong. And when you have finished the whole fight, you will still be standing. So stand strong, with the belt of truth tied around your waist and the protection of right living on your chest. On your feet wear the Good News of peace to help you stand strong. And also use the shield of faith with which you can stop all the burning arrows of the Evil one. Accept God's salvation as your helmet, and take the sword of the spirit at all kinds of prayers, asking for everything you need. To do this you must always be ready and never give up. Always pray for God's people.

This tells believers how to overcome the enemy so there is no legimate excuse for this type of behavior in the body of Christ. I am so tired of these weak excuses. There are consequences that follow these actions, the sad thing is that because of these ministers positions they are going to be judged harsher when they stand before God.

There is an example of this in the story of David and Bathsheba 2 Sam Chapter 11 &12

Also Read 1 Peter 5:8-9 (NCV) Control yourselves and be careful! The devil, your enemy, goes around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Refuse to give into to him by standing strong in your faith. God knew what temptations we were going to face and he gave us clear instructions on how to overcome them. There is no acceptable reason for this to be going on. And until someone stop making excuses and hold them accountable for their actions, this will continue to go on. My prayer goes out to the family. I pray for emotional and spiritual healing for the entire family especially the children. Yes, the children people seem to forget how this all affects them.

I want to leave with this scripture Isaiah 65:4 These people choose thier own ways, not mine, and they love the terrible things they do. So I will choose their punishments, and I will punish them with what they fear most. This is because I called to them, but they did not listen. I spoke to them, but they did not hear . They did things I said were evil; they chose to do things I did not like.

God Bless

What a pain to learn of the break up of this wonderful and hitherto inspiring couple (Pastor Zac and Riva). In circumstances such as these everyone is a loser. There is nothing redeeming looking at the totality of what has happened. Lord! Lord!why? However, sometimes, even if there has been unfaithfulness, it does not necessarily mean that the parties must split. In my experience over the years as an attorney, both parties tend to be worse off in the long term and the children are scarred for life. Why do you think for example Hilary never left Bill after the Monica affair? When matters of this kind occur, we must find some redeeming part of the relationship to hold unto where appropriate. Throwing away 15 years of marriage is not a joke; it messes you up especially if you married early. Riva is a very beautiful woman so what was Zac thinking of? Tell me! I'll keep them in my prayers.

I beleive this marriage can be restored.

Adultery, does not mean the pastor is a false prophet! It just simply means he was overtaken by a fault, and the blood of Jesus, has covered him, prayfully after the indiscretion, he has repented and will allow God to restore he's heart and mind!!!

please Tims and Riva forget everything for Jesus Christ.because God will forgive us anytime when we commited a sin.
Je sais la puissance de pardon, please retournez-vous.
Mon Dieu est Formidable.
je vous aiment et vous embraassent.

Actually, they teach God's word, which includes prosperity, something, by the way, God wants us all to experience, Joshua 1:5-9, 3 John 1:2, and not just financially, but spiritually, physically and emotionally. The fact of the matter is, it takes money for God's kingdom to operate!! Don't forget, "our father is rich in houses and land" and we are his children. Would you suggest that God wants us poor? He is Jehovah Jirah, our provider, and wants ABOVE ALL, that we prosper as our souls prosper! But if follow their ministries, they teach every aspect of God's word! It's time for the Church to stop thinking that God wants us poor!! We are supposed to help the poor, and how can we do that if we are lacking? These men are men of God and are good examples of how to live righteously, not because they are perfect, but because they honor The Lord and His word, their wives, children and their ministries. That's why God has prospered them and their ministries! They live by example.

Who are we to say how much time is enough? Our time is not God's time!! The Word says " our thoughts are not His thoughts and our ways are not His ways"!!! We can't say how He has dealt with Brother Tims, even prior to him going to counseling. Remember what The Word says about judging!

Anonomous, while your scriptures are on point, because God knows we are weak and full of excuses, He is a forgiving God, full of love and forgiveness!! That's why He wrapped himself in the flesh, as Jesus The Christ, came to earth and died for our sins! Because He knew, that if things stayed the way they were, there wouldn't be enough animals to sacrifice to cover our sins. So, He died to cover all of our sins, even those we haven't committed or thought!! God wants us to strive for perfection! But He knows we are far from it, and that's why Jesus now sits on the right hand of God the Father, pleading on our behalf. And even as righteous as you sound, you too can have the comfort in knowing that any sin physically committed or sinful thought that you may have, can be forgiven through God's love and mercy!! We serve a wise and merciful God who knows us better than we know ourselves, and that's why He gave us an out to sin, His only begotten son, Jesus christ.

This is truly an unfortunate situation for all involved & for the body of Christ - marriage & family belongs to God.

I think we all need to get back to basics: drink sincere milk, desire a relationship with God & being madly in love with Jesus Christ. ( too often Christians hate on each other & don't even recognize that they are - people that's a sin )
Marriage is a reflection of the relationship between Jesus Christ & the church - reverence God. As a married individual, it is wonderful to have the support of a spouse but its even more important to have a spouse that shares the love of Christ who recognizes you for who you are in Christ & is willing to work to make marriage & family in Christ the priority.
I think we fail to recognize that God has made a way of escape for his children because He knows that there will be times when we fail to be where we ought to be in Him as well we forget who we are & whose we are. The bible talks about love, forgiveness among others as there are issues in life that requires such act & as Gods' children we are not exempt & we all have areas in our life that needs to be improved / checked & requires healing.
I hope that we all can forgive each other & move forward in God because at the end Jesus is all we have & He is the thread that holds us all together & without him we fail but even in our failure we should not let that define us. If a man is sick does he allow that sickness to to keep him down or rather should his sickness keep him from God - no, you would earnestly seek God for your healing / breakthrough, well the same is true in every area of our life whether it adultery, fornication, stealing - we must seek God for forgiveness & healing. The same way we are seeking forgiveness from God, we also need to seek the forgiveness of the ones we love & care for as well as forgiving ourselves for our mistakes as that as hard to deal with as well.

To sum things up we need to learn to love & forgive each other the same way we want God to love & forgive us. There is no need to attack a persons opinion because they do not support your point of view but as Christians we need to encourage one another in the Lord, none of us are perfect & no sin is greater than the other, we sin without knowing & therefore we ought to die daily.
PS. he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

Although I'm just a television member of New Destiny Church, I've enjoyed watching the ministry for more than four years. Before attending the church I attend now(WLCC)I couldn't find anyone else that taught the word such as Pastor Tims. I continued to watch Pastor Tims, but then notice that a few months went by and I didn't know what was going on. I literally just found out about the divorce and of course I was disappointed, but I look at this situation if the shoe was on the other foot. I always mess up,but I always want God to show mercy and grace towards me. I just want to say to everyone who has and will comment. "For all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God". We look at preacher's as being perfect and NEVER having faults, but only God has proven that. There are things in my closet such as things in your own closet that you don't want anyone to know about. As long as we maganify others fault and flaws, we treat them like a disease until the tables are turned on us. UNDERSTAND I'M NOT CONDONING OR ACCEPTING WHAT HE DID WAS OKAY, but I am saying that we must FORGIVE so that we will be FORGIVEN BY GOD. CHURCH FOLKS STOP BEING SO SELF RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE THE SCRIPTURE CLEARLY SAYS:GALATIANS 6:1-2 BROTHER'S, IF SOMEONE IS CAUGHT IN A SIN, YOU WHO ARE SPIRITUAL SHOULD RESTORE HIM GENTLY, BUT WATCH YOURSELF, OR YOU ALSO MAY BE TEMPTED. I pray for both Pastor Zachery and Pator Riva's Ministry to flourish in a big way with God being the full focus.

God is love and he loves us unconditionally, let us love one another in the same way. The bottom line is that we as Christians should be striving to be just like our Savior Jesus Christ. Let's stop all the judgements and disagreements and pray for the restoration of the marriage of Zachary and Riva Tims. God Bless you all!

This individual that said Chirsitans are losers is lost. They cannot even know God with that foolish statement. Also, the Jesus of the Bible is real! In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God. Then the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Only a freak would discredit the existence and character of Jesus, whom is our Lord and Savior. Jesus is not some made up imaginary cartoon character.

As for as Pastor Tims, it is always good to have armor bearers with you; if you are married, take your wife along with you, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Word of God, which is the Sword that we fight the devil off with. David said, "I will hide your word in my heart that I may not sin against thee oh God".

MY BROTHER PASTOR TIMS IS NOT A FAKE, NOT EVEN DAVID WS PERFECT WHEN HE SLEPT WITH ONE OF HIS SOILDERS WIVES AND GOT HER PREGNANT...GOD FORGIVES AND WE SHOULD NOT JUDGE SIN IS SIN NO MATTER WAT U DID...ITS ABOUT HOW U GET UP NOT FALL...

I just want to say that divorce is very painful. My prayers are not only for the The Tims' family but all families who are experiencing this situation. All I know is that God is love and He forgives.

If you have a discerning spirit, you could have saw that this brother was not right from the begining. when he first aired on t.v. i said he is not right, the bible says, beware of false prophets, they will fool the very elect. wake up people.

Fred Price really does sound like he operates off the spirit of mammon though. I dont know him and would not judge him. However, it takes more than just common sense for many people who hear the prosperity gospel and accept it as absolute truth to accept any other message. Many of us dont need our right arms cut off to know that it would hurt because that is flesh and blood and we will feel that pain. So we say no to that. But the prosperity preaching is not painful (at least physically)so it is more easy to be influenced by it. That is until a different message reaches the audience. Check out "The blessed life" sermon from pastor Robert Morris entitled Breaking the spirit of mammon. It is an eye & ear opener.

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ewww....I believe that part says even the very elect would be deceived (if it were possible) which leads me to believe that it is not possible to fool the elect (Christians). And by the way, that scripture has to do with false claims of people saying that the Christ has come when in reality it wont be The Christ but an anti-christ or false christ......there will be many of those. But dont confuse that with the Tims marriage or the marriage of any family that divorces for that matter.

Hey Im not dogmatic.....maybe....but Im not gonna hold my breath on it. Even Gods word says....Hell hath no fury than a womans scorn.

I agree with you and the way you put it. But the prosperity preachers speak of money incessantly. I was listening to Rod Parsley the other day on TBN and he seemed obnoxious when he mentioned his Stefano Ricci clothing by its label. I had to google Sfefano Ricci. I found out that the shirts ran for $700 and ties for $200....the cuff links $1350. You know what I really dont care about how much he wants to pay for his clothing. But man he was materialistic (and prideful - the ugly kind of pride). Meanwhile, I recall a scripture that said, Jesus had no place to lay His head (meekness) (humility). I dont see it in these pastors now a days (save for a handful). But whats even worse than the flock listening (those who are already saved) are non-christians who are listening. And they size it up quickly. A buddhist man (i believe) his last name was Gandhi, went on National t.v. on the Larry King show and told the world, "I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians". And why? Because of the prosperity gospel. He went on to say that the Jesus he reads about in the Bible is completely opposite from the Christians he see's who preach the prosperity gospel on t.v. And I cant disagree with him given that I see it myself. There is a pastor who wrote a sermon series called "the blessed life", in it he preaches a sermon entitled, "breaking the spirit of mammon". His name is Robert Morris....I hope everybody will check it out....It is and eye and ear opener.

what we need to ask ourselves is what would jesus do. it brings the memory of what jesus told the religious leaders who brought to him the women who was caught in adultery. we must all remember we serve a forgiving god. and need to leave our own selfish emotions to ourselves. pastor tim needs to seek forgiviness thru god and turn from his sins and ask jesus to touch him again so that he can become whole.

One thing we must always be aware of and that the devil's mission is to cause splits. Mistakes were made and cannot be reversed, but can be corrected. It doesn't matter what happened; what's most important now is the process of restoration and how we can assist in that venture. The truth is that some of these comments I am reading is painful and then we use the scriptures to support our harmful input. Let us all open our eyes, get involved in the restoration process; pray for those who are fallen and weak, and search for those who is about to fall. That's what relationship is all about. Pastor ZACH and Pas RIVA has not yet completed their purpose so we still have to pray their restoration and the fulfillment of purpose on their lives. Finally, we may not do what Pastor did, but we do sin and the mercies of God saved us from being exposed. Take this moment and ask God to guide you and to help you to correct your faults before you too get exposed ... that's my daily prayer.

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I am so sad about this nad yet so sad fro both paostr Tim and Riva . I believe that for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God . pray that one day Pastor Riva will be able to forgive and move back on with her husband .

Couldn't this be reconciled after sometime with no divorce?

Couldn't this be reconciled after sometime with no divorce?

These pastors need to stop doing this type of stuff. This is the time he needs to be rebuked and dealt with. It's no wonder the churches are so out of order an no one wants to go. What is he doing in a strip club in Paris. He knew better, not only that he had a very pretty wife. Now he is going to counsel, for what?! That man knew better and that's a disgrace for him to be in then public eye like that and slip so hard. May God Help him back to his sanity and identity.

You are so right and thats why we have to be discerning of the times and watch whom feed us our Daily Bread.

I too believe in forgiveness. I believe in God's eyes sin is sin and there are no degrees. As people, especially Christians, we tend to attach degrees to sin and say which sin is forgivable and which is not. Jesus died for all sin because we are ALL sinners and fall short of the glory of God. Pastor Tims is a sinner too. Let us not forget that. David coveted Bathsheba and killed her husband. But He was still a man after God's own heart.Pastor Riva is hurt and rightly so. But I see her situation as an attack of the enemy and I think she should give the enemy a good fight before she can back down and give up her family.Its not over until God says so. And if God says He hates divorce then He does.I just don't think divorce is a solution to every marital problem or infidelity.I believe that as Christians if we can stand our ground and fight, God will back us up and get the glory in the process, and we will come out stronger and more blessed. I pray that God will deliver, heal, restore and refresh both the anointed man and woman of God.

I echo those same sentiments expressed by you, you nailed the heart of it. My heart breaks when I see people in leadership mis handle their position of purpose whether it's in the Church arena or the secular world. "There's no good thing in the flesh, for the flesh is the enemy of God," therefore anytime we find ourselves operating outside God's permissive will, we open ourselves up to matter's like these and in the end, we have to pay the piper. None of us are exempt when it comes to sin, "for all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God" God help us all!

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I found this posting after watching Pastor Tims while cleaning house. I live in Orlando and have often thought of visiting there church. I pray for both him and his wife.

I believe it was best for them to divorce if his wife was unable to let it go. It would not have been healthy for the children to see their parent in an unloving relationship at least they can be friends.

To the person who quoted all the scritures on divorce, what does the bible say about all those bible heroes we talk of "DAVID, ABRAHAM, ETC" who had "wives" and what about these abusive men. I work with domestic vilence women who husband are "faithful" TO DEATH to their wives, while "BEATING THE HELL" out of them. What should a wife do if she has a non-cheating husband but one who beats the hell out of her. She is staying because it is people like some of you telling her she has no biblical reason to leave.

I am christian and there are times when I want to stand up in some of your churches and give the story and pictures of women who have died emotionally and spiritually because of sermons and so-call well meaning church members like some of you.

No wonder most of these women call hot-lines and seek help from non spiritual sources because they are not getting the support in the church.

I went to a church to try to tell someone of my husband who was a drug addict and how I had been raped by someone who he owed money. No one wanted to hear it yet when my husband drug use got so bad and I was almost murdered by his actions all I heard was we will pray for you and try not to bring any drama in the church. I left that church and while I am still a christian I do not establish myself to no particular. I give my tithes and offering to support groups and services that help people and feel I am a better person. I am sure there are some good christians but it sickens me to hear and talk to people who are married to child molesters and won't leave because it's not adultry. If God does not grant a divorce for reasons of abuse and incest ...then I don't blame anyone for not wanting to be a christian. Establish a personal relationship and seek his answer not the opinions of the people quoting the law. It was okay to be married to more than one woman but not one woman to more than one man...any scriptures on that?

The word is PROCESS! Definition: a gradual course, moving forward-gradually.

That is what it takes to learn and to grow from our mistakes and that is what it takes to increase in the things of God.

When we sin, sometimes that is a gradual process.

To show up at a club that has strippers-
that was a gradual process. It took some time to arrive there.
It took some lying to get there (mostly to himself) and it took lots of betrayal.

It also takes lots of arrogance because for years, he has gotten away with it.

Its probably the arrogance that is causing so much commenting-
the betrayal runs so deep that even strangers are upset by it.
If you think Sis Riva left because of ONE year of indiscretions, you are being easily deceived.

Yeah, we all like Zack, he is very handsome and charming and gifted. Sure we could forgive him over and over, but gradually the effect of that winning smile gets old.

Stepping down should be a gradual process according to the depth of the weakness (sin). The counsel
should run as deep as the need.
Even men (counselors) are subject to the charm and the "I'm good to go, now" ~~ "I"m alright, now".

Even Jan on TBN has him preaching and setting an example before millions of vulnerable hearts.

But there is A PROCESS!! A GRADUAL INCREASE in healing, DELIVERANCE and then, the RESTORATION!!

Strongholds ain't no joke!!

It takes a lot of pride killing to step down and let someone else minister to your people and then to you as well.

But they ARE NOT YOUR PEOPLE!!
They are the people of the ONE WHO died for them.

Surrender to HIM and HE decides who takes over.
If there is so much error and pride, then a divorce of the congregation will happen: friends, mentors and sometimes even of the wife as well.

People want to stay in the will of GOD and will drop you in order to prevent falling themselves.

Exactly right. He has so many indiscretions that they were probably too numerous to count. Take it from me, I have been there. Riva should have run for her life. Don't forget that AIDS and all types of diseases are out there. How dare he endanger her life by having sex with other women. Did he wear a condom with these women? I know what the bible says. But I would not want any of my children to go back with a man or woman who had slept around. Riva has done the right thing -- moved on with her life and taken the children with her. It is better that they remain friend than to be in an unhappy home. One day Zachery will realize what he has lost.

I have only be saved for a little more then 3 months and must say God is trully good. He directed to Dr Zachary show and I love the message he gives. And yes he did make a bad life changing dicision, but all you can do is love for the man that god created. And his ex wife had to go through what she went through to start her own ministry. Therefore everything was set in it proper position "it had to happen" for God to move at full force. My heart and prayors go out to the family, friends, ministries and congergations that eere affected. LET GO AND LET GOD ;-)

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I love the work that Zack does. God used him to help me get over 22 years of addiction to smoking drinking, cursing and depression. If he didn't go through this he couldn't have helped others to see where they were going wrong. Praise God!

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WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE PASTOR TIMS? HIS PRIVATE LIFE IS PRIVATE, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW CHRIST, THE BIBLE SAYS MAN WILL FAIL YOU EVERY TIME, SO TRUE, WE ARE TO FOCUS ON THE CHRIST IN HIM AND THE MESSAGE CHRIST SENDS THROUGH HIM. MANY LEAVE CHURCHES BECAUSE SOMETHING THE PASTOR DID, THAT IS NOT OUR CALL, WHEN I WAS CALLED TO GOD I WAS NOT PERFECT AND STILL AM NOT, EVER STRIVING TO BE ALL THAT I CAN BE IN HIM. WE MUST NOT LET THE ENEMY DISTRACT US FROM WHAT IS IMPORTANT AND CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE ERRED FOR WE COMMITT SINS EVERY DAY THAT WE DO NOT EVEN KNOW ABOUT, AGAIN, WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE? SISTER FRAN IVORY, QUEENS, N.Y.

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My heart goes out to Pastor Tims and his wife. How very sad. I just want to say my father made such a mistake early on in their marriage when we three kids were very young. They seperated for a while, but Mom decided to forgive him and reunite. I never knew of it until after I was married when she share it with me so that I would know that a couple can get passed such a thing. I cannot express how thankful I am that my mom made this choice. We had a wonderful happy family with a great deal of humor in our home. Daddy was such a special person! No man is perfect, nor woman. We marry for better or worse and this surely is the worse part. I understand some marriages are so broken they cannot be mended, but we serve a big God and I don't think so many are irreparable as we have now. My goodness, Jesus went to the cross for all this!

i forgive mr. tims and i know god forgave him to even though he lost his life behind it thats the outcome of cheating. the devell stole his life by his by his own actions. so he payed the price. i believe they should reunite in marrieage as god gave them to each other. im just sayin he's not perfect.nor is anyone else says the lord. he still a man of god. love ya mr tims

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